Join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Just for. The clerk take the roll please. Your district one more set here two.
Three Rademacher here for
a while and five O'Malley here six cook. This point in our gender
comments and suggestions. Anybody that would like to address the comps.
You want to have. Please have ladies come up here so everybody in the T.V.
Audience can hear you and this is Toastmasters month. Yanna will
introduce the participants and also will give
a start highlights of the proclamation. And I'm
president of our local Toastmasters International Club called Hudson Rise and shine
and I am here to thank the board here and also to let everybody know that October
is Toastmasters. Toastmasters International is
a group that was founded in one thousand nine hundred twenty four and the purpose
of our club is to develop better communication public speaking and leadership
skills among our members I have several members with me.
In the hall here with me as well. Some of the things that we do within our club
involve people giving speeches based on manuals that they receive and they're all
geared toward learning how to make yourself
a better speaker through how you create your speech through the use of gestures
props many different things how to motivate people lots of different topics that
are speeches are and we also have people then evaluate the speakers we have people
who have different duties which might be counting we have an what's called an
counter and what they do is. When you're up there speaking they count all of your
little uncomfortable pauses in your arms and your eyes you know all those kinds of
things to just put a penny in
a can to draw your attention to it while you're speaking of subtle reminder we also
have
a area that we do called Table Topics which would be good for something like what
I'm doing right now except for speaking with you come up and
a topic is given to you and you just start talking on the topic for two minutes we
are
a wonderfully fun group we meet every Thursday morning right over at the municipal
building here at seven A.M.
We are done almost every time by eight o'clock we're very good about sticking to an
agenda I encourage anybody who is interested to please come experience
a meeting think about becoming
a member We'd love to have you and thank you so much for running them for as you
have we are just under thirty members right now OK Well it is Toastmasters month
and I do hereby proclaim October two thousand and six as Toastmasters month in the
city of Hudson encourage also the sons to recognize the many accomplishments and
opportunities and communication and leadership skills that this outstanding
organization makes possible to its members and to the community thank you very much
thank you. Thank. You.
Is there anyone else that would like to address the Council on any subject that's
not on the agenda anyone. OK. No
response will go to the consent of the gender. Madam Clerk over boys those for us
to the regular meeting minutes in closed session minutes of September eighteenth
two thousand and six claims for payment in the amount of four hundred twelve
thousand five hundred forty nine dollars and twenty seven cents
a detailed description is available in the clerk's office for inspection to prove
the issuance of
a temporary operator's license to be used at the Wintergreen fund raising event to
be held
a top or thirteenth two thousand and six two Darrell younger Hudson Wisconsin to
prove the issuance of a temporary class B.
Retailers license to the Christian Community Campus foundation incorporated to sell
wine at
a fundraising event to be held at two thousand and six at Wintergreen thirteen
twelve Wisconsin St to appoint one thousand additional city of Hudson election
inspectors for the period ending December thirty first two thousand and seven as
submitted by the Republican Party the complete list as valid will in the clerk's
office upon request to place on file the community access board minutes of
September twenty sixth two thousand and six the same criteria mess commission
minutes of September twenty fifth two thousand and six and the zoning board of
Appeal minutes of August twenty second two thousand and five that is all for your
pleasure and consent for approval. So I can.
Cook Yes Weiland more said Yes yes you had
a comment as to why we missed. You mention that. I still.
Didn't miss it you just missed it when your in your reading of it that will be
included and. Thank you.
Yes. Yes yes yes with that inclusion.
Let's go to the report of standing committees Planning Commission requests to
release an relocate utility easements
a lot three block one stone find first edition live eighteen Grand View Drive in
Lot thirty eight in Vine Hills first edition six zero one Topaz lane very much urge
from five eighteen Grammy address. By commission recommends approval and releasing
relocation utilities McQueen light three block one stone pine first Dacian which is
located at five thousand Grandy drive and Lot thirty eight thanks for the first
edition. Six zero one Topaz lane and relocation easy on the new established
property eyeing the feeder the easement being on five feet on each side or ten feet
on Lot thirty to find his first edition with the provision utility companies sign
off on the release of the easement I have a verbal agreement spec so energy in
a T.T.
West on the release of these might still need to get on cable which is probably the
least significant of the three it is easier to locate at specific utility. But we
would not be able to release this until we get those releases from utility
companies OK. It will for
approval with the provision of the lie by dirty with the releases. And he just
question comments or questions they're not all in favor by those motions Kerry
is going to to certified survey map from one family residential lot and one
a lot less to Cooley road and south of Burton's park Eric Roland. They were playing
commission recommends approval of the certified survey map as patrols by area
growing He's the owner of both the proposed lot that has existing house on it and
the author which is the role in the till the area with
a variance allow the residential lot to not A but on
a public street based on findings there exist unique conditions in the Bourke most
part neighborhood watch DO NOT a but
a public street and this proposed subdivision is not violate the purpose of the
city said Vision cold and Wisconsin statutes to thirty six so I understand
a lot three which is proposed is the existing residence
a lot and one is pretty much the existing Burke most park private driveway and
utility area that the intentions of Mr Roland Cain ownership outlawed would be
to create
a homeowner's association to take care of the private driveway bilbies to take
cooperation otherwise it's still his responsibility. Do
you have
a question this lot is for sale is it not is cracked and would that it would
a sale to a third party in any way interfere with the operation of the
a lot of the what three or anyone is still the minister and your title Mr Owens and
he'd still be responsible for OK thank you
a move for approval of the sort of fight survey map as Danny has proposed
a sort of second. Second revolution and further discussion questions.
You know all in favor. Oh those questions Kerry. Let's get on the Finance Committee
renewal of tax collection agreement with sink rate County traders office
recommendation from finances to contract with them again this year at the same
price I think that's seventy five cents for. Also right.
Recommendations for someone. Stuck in. Any discussion or comment
that's really good deal for us all in favor I posed questions Kerry. Let's
go to six request of G.C.I.
Builder so this city to dispose of city property west to River City Center abutting
first street to have
a discussion on this the Sebring from ational purposes only and then to refer to
Plan Commission which there's
a meeting their second. All in favor.
Of motion to carry West by G.C.I.
Basically is to discuss with the city Hudson where his city would be willing to
dispose of the property what West the river city center central areas where the
present curved line of First Street is on the east side of First Street and between
there and the back of the building for River City Center. Today I received revised
plans I had some very strong concerns about. The first set of
proposals that was been submitted and the on street parking it was proposed when
required first tree to be partially relocated further to the west with which would
be in an additional park property it would been required those plans been changed
all the street parking it's now proposed is east of the east curb of First Street
salt as you would have to relocate first Street. Driving surface to
a car to accommodate what's proposed. By commission is scheduled to look at it
Thursday certainly would welcome any input from the Common Council in NY on
particular issues. I visit with staff in regards to utilities water utilities
appears that it would not be required to be ruled gated sanitary sewer dependant on
the. Jeff the city would consider disposing of property in the building located
there may be some necessity to real key to send Terry sewer drain to subpoenaed now
the building's probably been moved farther to the east and that would not be an
issue any longer but that was one of my issues. So maybe to give
D.C.I. Representatives
a few mentions present their proposal and they we can raise any issues you want to
play with me short of
a clarification Denny that would take us to. The middle of First Street you know
and the way the plans are now there will be no real cation
a first Street OK And what I saw after the Finance Committee I want to raise the
issues I had with them and he said no the fandom in change. Is getting it said it
was revised plans to take
a look at before playing nation. And one. Term
. And then just grab the mike so the T.V.
Audience here you.
So many audience may have a little bit of
a hard time trying to see this from my back there we did do it in color. The board
members all have one. Basically we're looking at here the yellow is the existing
building that is there the green space is the city property which now is all
asphalt park and so if you know there's
a part of it you can see the way the new building is in the black all lighted area
. You need to that we wanted to do as
a gateway into the community you know coming in so that we could state of the
building so give it a decent river effect and
a decent city effect as you're coming into town sort of one straight long building
but we're also this way to get more additional parking the parking is not going to
be used just for this building will be across easement so hopefully it will help
relieve the city of Hudson for some property downtown in general for parking
because it won't be just allocated to this building There's also additional forty
stalls on the bottom here on the lower end of the by the Park area that we're going
to be commuting into there also into that easement space of the city of land there
. Any questions on what we're looking for in here is there any
if you have any questions from the council. I think we understand the proposal.
Anywhere from the council. Considered any other layouts for this building we have
with the layout so we need. With. What we want to propose here to get the
elevations and to get the mana square footage we need to make this work we need to
put the building towards the back because the highest restrictions they the city is
going to require by putting up front where we want people to get the underground
parking and everything else that were needed to require what the expense normally
had on a project this to make it work you need
a tiff application you need something for redevelopment to get to work and what
this what this site now it's been
a real challenge to get to work the way it is the reason is as. One of the largest
buildings down and the gate to the city and having it look like
a series of historic buildings on Second Street would make it look like it's part
of downtown so you know maybe each ninety foot section looked like
a different building would say oh we are now entering the historic city heights and
we're putting it back and makes it look at it like
a shopping mall Well I won't give it
a lock it's it looks like that on this but it's going to give you the definition of
the break up because there is
a I definitely know you get ten to fifteen feet in the separation and also by
having it up here the three stories high it's going to gone through
a tunnel effect plus I don't know what the river board would do to have another
parking lot to oversee it you know from the from the view from the river you know
that it's because I know in the past different prize that worked on. See the river
act
a lot of they don't they wanted they don't mind the building but they don't want to
see a big parking lot see
a parking lot is there's ways to address that but the reason I was thinking about
as you come downtown and. As you know
a building that changes depths like that isn't it isn't typically historic you know
it's appearance so it's something to consider as another another look at the
building from
a different angle. I'll give you an elevation here that will show you
a little bit we're trying to conceive.
This is basically what we're looking at for
a non lock you know different break ups you know of to do it you know the stone on
the bottom or the on the back side to be all Stallman the front you'll have your
stone fixtures and have your brick on top and your offsets it will be broke up it's
going to basically contour for you have downtown and I think if you put the three
storey buildings of course our buildings are right on the the road right away I
think here and have
a huge shadow effect it's right that I've had some other ideas and talked about.
What is the overall hates that you're proposing. Will be will meet the minimal
requirements I'm not sure exactly what it is it's like forty five feet from the
down from the waterfront was like thirty five from the French site so that means
all it will meet all the rest of the building acquirements the city is asking for
how does the building get taller if you move it will cool towards second Street
because you take it as an average building and not just from one street to the next
you're doing you know you've got
a twelve foot elevation from second Street the first rate she come out you're
medium average and then you go thirty five feet from that I was just saying at the
first floor if it's. First it is
a certain height and you move it straight forward forty five feet still it's twelve
feet down lower not one piece because you're human you leave it first or it's
twelve feet higher so if you ran that straight across back to the second he gained
twelve feet. Cutting this to be twelve feet lower
for you No I'm saying you're dropping down maybe got
a backward second straight Some men want you at the first I'm sorry parking lot yes
you have an associated on First Street associated on Second Street you still have
a Soviet take elevation of a second Street and you take the first train
a split there you get a medium height you have
a Chinese that's what you go off of that's what that's your city requirements. Yes
I thought this coming and that's how. It's got that nice open field having it set
back like that it seems to be safer brighter more wide open.
That. Stay here like there's a proposal. But we'll have a chance to take
a look at that basically we're we're getting
a general. View of what's going to happen but the question tonight is for
land acquisition going to begin going to the Planning Commission and they will have
some input on whether or not their recommendation is to lease sell or do nothing
with the property. Or wind in the green area here what is what is your preference
to buy this property or to lease it or. Well I'll just acquire it as I'd like to
just acquire the property. To discuss. The matter regarding the
rocky that would be where should it happen that you have forty parking stalls
exterior to the building don't you also have on that west facing side of the
building the entrance to the garage is for the kind of orders where all my mistake
and I know that the the parking ramps of the hotel would be on the end of the north
south end. Of this room will be filled with the stores that are exterior on the
west side of the building. That you have marked here public. Or
new parking stalls are there those are not for the kinds of nothings in the Nelsons
or granny that's why I'm asking you to so they had to answer was I'm going to be
over on this side here father so there are at the Radisson or whatever and then
over here is
a convoy is coming in on the grade level so there might be here we are going up
this great all depends where the elevation actual parking for the condo units would
be indoors endorsement around the park is OK so but it is it is the same ramp that
I know they're separate a distance they'll be coming in there's
a swimming pool in the middle and mechanicals OK condos on this area. Whatever the
Radisson or whatever come in error be on this site OK the new parking stalls do you
anticipate who is staying at the grade level the rat which is
a kitchen but it or do you plan to elevate them you're going to be at the same
grade private
a little bit more elevated but not much because the road right away. That's already
dictating what we're going to do with our elevation. Through street park
yeah yeah. Histories or.
Any other questions or comments I think that what we need to look at to implant in
. Is the city did we have
a need to hold on to this property I mean that's kind of question that we may have
any proven time for street that. We need on the property for any other reason later
on I'd like to see us get through one of the things is not I'm not really sure this
I may be able to help me that I was over there today again be on the property right
now is college semi trailers parked out and now is it across He's been dedication
or how is that being handled in all the way to right now it's all tire paved his is
all that's how the curb the way there now is there an existing easement already
granted to that thing or you know that's
a sign that's well that event occurred back of eight hundred fifty back that's all
just try never for traffic and First Street and the environment was completely
different and we obviously wanted that particular development to occur so we did
accommodate the the owners at that time we have to evaluate Has anything changed
today that led. Prohibit us from doing exactly what you're asking for Should we
retain that particular property in case the dish will traffic or curvatures happen
on that turn so that we at least could do it on our own property rather than taking
additional property from the existing park to accommodate whatever happens I think
that's what current was already sickly sane so we'll have
a good discussion on that and planning on Thursday right down. Yes with this
question and I understand that that we're just discussing that the limit you wish
to acquire but last week in our meeting that was vention of in the parking lot area
green space to make it more attractive would we be coming to planning on Thursday
with
a different plan showing the greens fees which is not it's not there not at this
time of on if the cities are going to require grassed on air green space we'll do
that right now it's on pavers I'd much rather see grass and there. Because I know
the cost of pavers in the cost of grass as
a developer. It's whatever we go with at that time the
city I'm sure is going to have some type of. You know planning it's there in our
require us to have if it's green space trees shrubs or whatever it is we're going
to meet those recommendations of the city. I think Woods got sane as
a stand if you had a sketch of what your proposal would be you'd be in
a in probably better favor than just saying it's going to be
a parking lot let us decide so if we have some sketch or something or sometimes out
that could get across to us what you had in mind I think it would be received in
a better light by play right now we do have it as
a concept and see what we have here it's all it's pavers and entries and stand
there saying he wants his side and trees and shrubs as only the town and every for
him to was accompanied last week about the parking lot area not about the West area
because they're all going to be made to look not like the parking lot and obviously
that's not been done yet might since we're we're we're here to give guidance to you
tonight my guidance is to not as the mayor just said you know we better get that
done I thought they were talking about the lorry it was only about it was actually
ball I would it was well I would say Yes Yeah well I didn't have
a landscape at that obvious I didn't spend they have
a landscape architect exactly I've just seen you just get those that want to be
artists to do
a little Sure rendering Yeah all right we can we can come up with that very
interesting what the whole thing is when you do approve particular rendering any
change parkour on they're going to say well that's not what we've seen so it's you
got to really be careful so I work to cities like that before and your first
concept plan and all we're saying is you have to be careful I will I know that I'm
saying that's
a concept plan for coming up with so I think you can show as far as elevations from
second Street how that how the front of the building is going to look as the
entrance to Hudson would be very. You know it sounds like
a great program it just wanted to be compatible with our thinking and the Planning
Commission and our constituents and once we come to that kind of win agreement man
I think it's going to be honest I agree with you as I was that I make I've put in
a big investment in this town I mean to be as I want this to be very. This is
a very big project and I'm going to stay in Amman on the Radisson I'm not leaving
Iraq to tell us to I agree and then I want to be
a great positive thing for both of us to help us out if you can sort it and me the
laughter the patients I'd like to give you is that my constituents have been
calling me about this there's
a high degree of interest as you would expect in this development and. At least
from my point of view there is no need for us to do this quickly I say that because
you've got of big investors you just said and time equals money I understand that
and I'm not trying to tell you you're going to get any delays I'm just saying. We
want to make sure this is right for the city because it's going to be around the
low but here's the other thing you've got thirty days to make we've got less than
thirty days that I have to make
a ten year commitment to the city and the building is going to be staying the way
it is for ten years of if I don't do this deal because the owners here right now
and he's going to have to lease us all to make the revenue work so you're right it
doesn't have to be done quickly but for me it does for him it does I get
a thirty day continuance on the same to say you are doing
a project or not or he's in leave it the way it is for ten years because he's going
to get a ten year lease on the existing building and his tenants
a going to go nowhere so there's there's it's not just my financial part of it it's
the owners themself and you look at his side of it's I think what the council is
trying to say as we always have time to do it over never have time to do it right I
agree only if you had to get in another thirty day extension that might be an order
correct problem that I'm not saying I will try to do whatever I can to ratify to
get all your answers and we want to help you as much yeah yeah. Really.
Yes. Crack. Berry strategic sort of
a naked. One which
a third of an acre is in downtown Manhattan. Could some beads so so this is
important to us as many as to the New Yorkers I just want you to others I'm trying
to give you guidance here I am I'm lesser state of mind unless I just need to know
exactly I understand what you're looking for but these are concepts all plans so
I'm saying that I can go into here and try to figure out this exact layout for the
whole parking lot you're asking for
a complete set of drawings I'm showing the concept plan that were asking I
understand. An artist concept track rendering rendering of what it would look like
that that'll help YOU hundred pre-crime up of that I agree I know what you're going
to look at. Here this is the. Big development that's happened
so the decisions we make here are critical for the rest of the development that
will probably occur so that's why we're so interested in making sure this gets done
and we can make something work out I think it's
a great project but I'm still right you know OK thank you very much as any other
questions this time. For to the point of commission
or. You know every twenty. Third of a report everybody have a chance take
a look at that very it's going to give us the highlights. Of the report from Carson
Mary verbiage and spending. If everybody's listening mean.
If you know anything.
Here's
a revenues through August thirty first basically the expenditures are right on
budget some of the individual lines may look like they're over budget but however
if you put them together in the departments such as parks if you look at individual
parks and individual parts may be over budget but if you put all the budgets
together they're still within what they should be MY think the real concern that we
have because our budget consists of eighty percent of labor we have to really watch
anything that might occur such as no point in the From January first through the
spring we incurred sixty thousand dollars and snowplowing expenses so if we have
things that we can't control like that we might have to look at other ways of
finding it not sending people out as much there's other things that we might have
to do because we have
a tight budget will be over at that point. The revenue side of the budget we have.
Building permits are coming in lower than planned we had budgeted three hundred
fifty thousand it looks like we'll probably be about one hundred thousand dollars
short there so the council needs to be aware of that we need either to possibly cut
some expenditures I would suggest that we look at it again and month or two to see
how it ends up for the year and then maybe make some appointments of that time of
from balance that we might have available I gave you
a summary of fund balance it looks like we have
a lot of fun balance but it is tied up in other things one of the we have
a million dollars of fine balance that I have that's restricted because it has been
proceeds that have been used for cap. A low life so there is available four hundred
some thousand dollars that we can use towards
a hundred thousand dollars shortage we also could use some of that four hundred
thousand dollars towards the two thousand and seven budget however once it's spent
it's gone and there is you know no other funds to take from Until we start building
our fund balances up again so just making Council aware of that everything else is
looking good in the budget at this point any questions on Betty board because when
I go it was just the hundred thousand dollars list budget for the purposes that
residential or commercial or both but with five years or more if we wait. I would I
would say probably Mike's probably tell you more but I would think that it's more
residential That's down and commercial at this point right that's what. We're what
our contractional services because almost every item is over and that I mean is
that elevator inspection. Would be anything other than supplies or reap it would be
something inspections maintenance agreements. Basically those are most of those are
. When they come due or no. Not if they're smaller items no.
Asked given if he couldn't tell us exactly where we are all the budgets are budget
requests are in as of today and. That's that will be is that he has you know
you go through and verify that. I neither think I have gone through any the budgets
of that wait till they come in so verify that the numbers are right and sure the
person are possible right and then we'll have to see where we are running versus
expense and try to figure out
a plan of attack with staffing you guys posted. There are three or four
we already addressed one of the reclassification requests there's been
a couple other requests for increase in hours for Apply those type of things that
will be on the next agenda for you guys to discuss make decisions on so that we
know I had it before we finalized the budget what we're doing as opposed to making
those changes at the budget hearing. So we want your get your input on that will do
that at the next meeting and I'll get that out here soon as I can I'm going to take
a look at the budget initially and basically separate to camp all project requests
from the rest of the regular budget then we're going to take
a look at the regular budget and what things are our wants and needs and
also in the capital projects try and restrict goes to somewhere between we
normally go about
a million dollars in our capital projects to sure we've got requests for probably
eight million dollars and we'll take
a look at that and try to develop some approach for you and then the next step is
to share all that with to get your input and that plus the committee
recommendations and the needs that are going to occur there this is
a tough year there will be cuts I mean I think you know that well cuts we already
were already hundred thousand dollars in the hole to start just with what we have
to pay for personnel costs that are already been contracted what we're getting in
of itself. You know the approach probably will be will get to the point where we
will make some cuts probably but it may get to the point where we're still need to
make cuts and we're going to have to hand it back if that is the committees or the
department heads. And they're going to have to make the decision as to what is
a want for us is a need or what's really a need versus kind of
a need but we may have
a session with all the council people and the department heads and say look this is
what's going to have have to happen. But at this point we you know the numbers just
got in today so when I did there are some things that we can continue to do on the
capital projects side. But I don't want to go into complete depth on that
and but he's going to have
a shotgun come over and give us some approaches that we might be using
for two thousand and seven or not but for the T.V.
Audience who you want to just go over the. Three point six percent increase we have
and how much our labor costs are increasing so they know what kind of issue are and
are right we are the state tax levy increase that were restricted by the state
we're not able to capture the increase in valuation you know we would be able to
without raising the mill rate increase you know the valuation of years that we're
not allowed to do that we can only increase by hundred fifty thousand dollars for
the personnel costs all of which are pretty much contracted I mean they're the
salary increases in there to unhappiness and so it's not like we're giving it
percent raises anybody is in somewhere between the two hundred twenty two hundred
forty thousand dollars range or three hundred forty so we're we're already kind of
starting in the hole we know building permits are going to be down next year I mean
obviously they are the issue we know they will be done next year so. The church
along want to point one hundred thousand dollars I believe so yes. So we'll get all
these figures together for you sit down and we'll hammer it out of the group.
OK with everyone. Thank you Betty let's go up to
date on projects. Good evening I
just want a quick run through the public projects
a Hamley road storm sewer actually they finished paving and pretty much finished
that project on Saturday so just some final restoration stryfe seen
but Hamley storm surge project is complete. Bids were received on the Riverwalk
part shelter they will hopefully be on the next council meeting once we've
confirmed that the funding has been received so you'll see those right hopefully
the next meeting another one I just touch on Actually it's not even on the list the
band Terra north which is the property right at the southeast corner of stage line
and Carmichael they are started today full bore ahead of installing the final
utilities for those lots that are citizens based at Assen State Bank is going to be
relocated there and there's another parcel potentially there. And
a final thing I want to touch on is the Vine Street Corridor study as you Pif seen
the have the two become winners the tube stretched across Vine Street to take the
traffic counts last week there was individuals at the different four way stops
taking counts traffic counts pedestrian counts and documented the movements there
so we're gathering information at this time and if all goes well they're hoping to
have the report ready in November. But all of us left there is just
a stop sign and we don't. Delineate from who it was where removed it was
restrike to be you know eliminate the turn lanes and then the stop is just located
at the center of vine and dine and drive. Very good. Thank you any
questions and hello thank you. Let's go to new business from urgency
siren update recommendations are the great going to tell us all about that. It was
a good summary that you included in our. In about oh
in around August it came to my attention that sometimes the sirens were not being
activated we did some checking with the manufacturer of the sirens themselves and
we found that the. General maintenance is needed there are some issues that are
listed we have two sets of sirens we have the. American
signal located on
a street and on Hanley road and Chestnut Street we do have one of the old federal
sirens to check the federal siren is not in any way like the American
signal sirens that landline operated by that communications center so that's phone
activated the other two are they act like
a pager when they're there activated by the dispatch center they send out
a pager we do have
a computer up stairs and that lets us know when they are activated and we can
activate them up there working they are all working Thank you. They're all working
but there are some they did find some issues with some of the sites.
Starting with they haven't been service or maintenance since the they were
installed back in two thousand and things like gear drives things like that there
are no battery backups for those in case of power failure. In the other thing that
needs to be addressed in the future is the polls that they're standing on. There
right now there are big wooden poles and they have different ratings and all that
and they're starting to show some agents stress bird damage that So cracks within
the wood so that's but I am working with several other grants or donations to
replace those who work with Excel and trying to get some poll I'm waiting for
a phone call back on that maybe once we get the poles I know they are going to put
them in for us but maybe Jim can help you and direct you to somebody who could put
those polls in the position. POWER Yeah get with him and said.
That the cost of doing some maintenance on them right now was quoted at fourteen
twenty five and that's if we use their vehicle boom truck if we use our own boom
truck that be nine hundred dollars that's for both sirens. And we got the Homeland
Security dollars that. Are in and not in the works that I know of this
year. But it seems begin home and got in security dollars but US general cost
of the other stuff from
a battery backups you have cost us those are going to be about five hundred apiece
for battery backups I didn't list that. Does that to me for Seems kind of important
maybe it should be a budget item for you and all that. Well let him take
a look at that whole package because I think it's important especially what
happened in Rogers Minnesota and we want to make sure that they're operating and
that they can be activated and most importantly that they're in good shape and kind
of told Eric that he's responsible for that up to date he's done
a good job hope he'll carry that on and give us some dollar figures to somewhere
will have to find someone else to do it very important factor. Any questions or.
Keep it up thank you thank you. Street name Pearson drive for
road right away resolution thirteen aware that. These
are
a requirement by city Hudson when the drove to cease to Carmichael road was. Created
and once that extended into ports was to ban terrorise Dan Choi announced
a ban tear commercial area that roadway to go from private driveway to public
street and now it's happened and because Pearson drive is the extension
of that rolled recommendation and name and street Pearson drive as continuance of
that street OK. Just. So I can. Check it.
All in favor I own most of scary. Resolution thirteen dash will see the status of
Pearson right or see. Any discussion or comment.
Very known favor I'm all or should carry new business do you consider changing the
date for first council meeting then November and that's communication with Devon
and and the clerk and we're thinking about the eighth Devore of the night
eighth day after election day after the election in you and eleven with all of the
involvements and furniture. News reports that need to be filed with the county that
would make it work. To change the date of the first meeting with them for the sixth
to the eighth to make room for setting up much machines outside of. Any discussion
. There are none all in favor of I have. Told more from scary.
Finance be that they do yes. Let's go to
request by James Casper's and Corey pope to erect
a fence at eight hundred stone pine Bay which in the Grand View right away and
request to enter into
a use agreement. In the cast of the Kaffirs in Korea and James Kasper and Corey
pope at eighteen are stone pine her building a swimming pool in her backyard
a required to fence said area and by our building code the request here is
there's only as keep area pretty much on the property line if you're requesting to
be able to build
a fence on the west side of the landscape area which be into the street right away
a little bit. You want to ask if they get
a permit for fans not location I said Ministre to
a good city cannot. Permit in that location less City Council would approve
a use for me at which conditions are is that if utilities are city
requires the use of the easement and the fence would be need to be removed at the
expense of the owner and if the real catered allocation again the expense of the of
the owner of the city determines that the right of way needs to be used in the
future and we reserve the right to have the fence real gated in order to
comply with state statutes on this would they not then have to also tear up or
remove their. You know Nancy now they can they can build
a fence on their property kind of privately so if they can build the fence close
enough to the swimming pool to comply with all prevailing laws now why don't they
just do that did we we discussed that staff I mean we discussed that with the
owners and their request was I mean were the staff not opposed to building on
a right away are you saying if you want to make
a request of the city council to do that then it's got to go the other net build it
on your private and city council does improve it and build on your private property
. Because I want to come up so T.V.
Audience can hear
a story. We want to in the right way because of all our
landscaping so it's going to be raw and it will blend right in you know so
I don't want it on the inside so that we feel caged in. The landscaping would be on
the on the outside right. Over rule. Second.
Nothing discussion. Would be would be any concern if.
If if other residents of that same line wanted the same variance would we have any
problems issuing the same variance to other homeowners. But.
I guess they're sure the lead take the feds down to get out of that every. Place
will make sure Alright I'm going to make sure we're saying that it's if it's OK for
this family it will be OK for other families that way as well the kids watch are
laid out it wouldn't be
a continuous thing of the next one and the next one and the next one asking for the
same. Basically saying they're asking for
a conditional use probably correct in. This because this is what the friend this is
a use. Or is it
a variance. Just commissioned by the state media OK we've got a feeling even
a breakdown I understand that we didn't really only. We didn't care
which can be rescinded at any time by the city by this writer which is like
a conditional use permit which is not we know you. Want Well there are three more.
That was your concern yes and the answer is no they will know of my answer they
know but what are the four way OK Also he would have to do I know that I'm thinking
out too far on this but springboard improvement Lee said I would dearly not like to
have a lot of swimming pools installed with
a lot of fences on our you took in our utility easement and then the day comes when
we need it and we've got the room packed full of people saying how can you possibly
do this to us that's right you know I guess because we've had it happen before but
as we're playing all the way to lots really that's like
a good side lots of lights on the boat really could happen it could happen but
you're not not continuance I want to I had one other question. Or are concerned and
in the setback I was talking to Danny earlier today the setback is sat there to
make sure that we have enough area to pile snow and is there any danger that our
snow plows will knock this fence over.
Here. If the snow plow hits I think you're going to
you know I mean I'm just going to go that's
a good point I'll just thinking that your doctrine make sure that we're not going
to damage the overseer was this brings up
a good question is part of this agreement between the city and the landowner doing
indemnify us from any dig any damage to their or their friends at all by any city
worker. Is that part of the really any improvements or damage to the exercise by
the city of its rights to property owners responsible for the place for
a restoration of St OK OK that's no problem and the answer to your other question
is how can you possibly do this is we require them to sign an agreement that says
look if the city ever needs this preferably you agree to take it down so they don't
enter into this knowing exactly what the conditions are and installing You know
it's not like
a solid friend so the snow was probably going to be going right into your
landscaping or that was just
a concern or that you don't want to know they were there.
Yeah. Yeah. OK And the other
questions all in favor I posed some scary Thank
you you. Thank. Consider changes to the.
Chapter one eighty one Parks and Recreation ordinance number four. Catherine has.
Constructed something for us here or maybe you want to read up for yeah that this
is following up on the discussion at the last council meeting regarding use of Park
facilities and. Basically the coordinates currently just
as far as ours there was concern about using it after hours and the ordinance just
states that ours are to be posted and so ours both for the park and the facilities
will be posted and we're just making it clear that use of all Park facilities must
comply with Posted signs that's just to make it clear that if someone does not
comply
a citation can be issued. For violating the ordinance then the other concern raised
was fires fires primarily in some shelters in
some parks have fireplaces and so. One
change and I work I discuss this with Jim right now the code allows
cooking for. Our fires for cooking I just made it clear barbecues or grills you
can. Put together some makeshift thing and use it for cooking the other thing is
that he would like to have a permit require
a permit to use fireplaces in the shelter just because it is
a public safety hazard is that. You know cleanup is involved just
a little more regulation and they aren't and so that's the other amendment in part
which you can point
a finger to the individual. Acquire that permit for for the fire.
Before we go into that I don't know if this is permissible but I want to Jim in the
acting chief to tell us
a status of one of the signs that were put up there the results
OK yes that's fine. But the less time for meeting
we. Were So this prospect and the. Path was.
Still is they're limiting our sunrise to sunset and then approached by.
A. Fireplace or use a fireplace without
a permit. Issue The signs were put up and vandalized.
The second day vandalize less. The police have been fairly aggressive
in enforcement and basically the last week are that it wasn't as rough as
originally zero right and I guess one of the same achieve but certainly took some
corrective action is going to tell us what he can about that but I've been on
surveillance just about every day I don't see anybody up there anymore. We have
some very good officers here in this town because we have
a number of people that. Went up there. And they used
a lot of different techniques and there were
a number of arrests made last week I won't get into any details but that seems to
have. A big effect on the conduct of the individuals which is basically what we
want to do. Well I mean once we pass this ordinance you know the policeman
can then go up there if they're after hours and say hey the rebellions closed and
please remove yourself which. I believe to be closing time before was eleven
o'clock so there's a lot of activity and
a lot of fires of want to congregation. In those areas from say seven o'clock to
eleven but now. That would happen and it seems like it's working very
good and I want to thank you gentlemen for taking the front to back showing that
you have. Any questions there's a question about the fees in the section B.
. I wouldn't have what's that for the well I put it in so that
the direct park structure would have the authority to establish
a fee I think it's primarily and I don't know what Jim is thinking on this but
a deposit file or cleanup similar to other part is the park facility you know going
to be is if they go up there to make a mass we wind up having to spend
a substantial amount of time cleaning up you know you leave the place it's clean
there's ashes in the fireplace but other than that we're not seeing and charcoal
writing on the wall you know if I will refund your deposit no problem. Yes there is
a master going to. Cover any over and above right yeah any cloaked extraordinary
you know dealing we have to do is do users are going to be. Like that.
Anyway I just don't want to get in the habit of charging fees to citizens that are
in the park I think it seems to me that came up when you were in the park for. I
think basically it's a deposit as opposed to
a fee and I guess I want to stand now. To the opportunity to two things just thank
some of them are directed it's up there for helping out being additional sets of
eyes in Randy for you Nerika on the paper I think that that is off as well. Well
Randy keep in mind that
a lot of the use of our parks is by people who don't own the park right by people
who don't live here and it's
a right. It's looking at the way this is written we already have
a if you want to reserve the pavilion for
a large gathering or reserve anyway you've got to you pay
a fee to ferry serve in the pavilion can't we tie these two together reserve the
pavilion you have to reserve the pavilion if you're going to have
a fire in the fireplace No No surely Well I mean what hymns it right now you've got
them separate you can get a fireplace permit but you can somebody else can get
a permit and it be that doesn't make any sense and it seems like they should be
tied together that the reserve The prevail you can also get
a fireplace permit so but if somebody want to come in and just say you know we're
going to be up there we would like to just have a pump you know be able to use
a fireplace
a little evening fire and they're not you know they're not going to reserve it. At
all even if it's only one thing whatever that survives reserving
a privilege and means you have to turn a person very you know that's
a whole holding it for us opposed to something I going up there and have been there
chained up for the other question I had was on the reserve in the pavilion permit
would it be possible to allow hours of operation past dark so they say I want to
reserve the pavilion but I would like to use it until ten could we do that through
the permit instead of right. Right
a part of the part of the probably it would be ours thanks so we could go beyond us
to go beyond us if you have to prove right what will happen if that's the case if
it was. We will carbon the P.D.
Such that they know that if there's somebody up there utilizing it it's permitted
us and they can say to Jim we want to be there till ten o'clock sure. You Can we
just know about it. And everything's OK So morning of A needs to be modified to say
something about unless by permit. Well what you could have your sign saying Our
thanks got up to sundown except my permit got to do that for the society so yeah OK
thank you I think recovered alright moved to suspend the rules second.
I had. To adopt ordinance work you know six to amend Section one eighty
one as stated I'll second the motion. Yes.
Yes. Yes. Yes yes.
OK. Communication recommendations of the mayor re appointment of Dave Hall to the
Public Utility Commission. Recommendation from North Hudson board was to.
But Divine there and I just need confirmation of that particular appointment or we
have one so moved. I think you are all in favor by all those scary
commissions. Is Going To thousand and six of Fire Prevention Week and we've already
had to Toastmasters month. Read
a little bit of this whereas smoking poisonous gases or even five deaths and fires
can kill us long before we reach. And whereas developing our own Feyerick ski plan
and practicing home drills regularly are critical to Xscape in
a fire safely and whereas proper installation testing it means
a smoke alarms are partly their own home fire Xscape when. And where by preventing
the leading cause of the home fire and by developing and practicing
a thorough home Feyerick scape plan people can greatly reduce the risk to fire
whereas
a fire service of that's and fired Badman dedicated to safety of life and property
from the devastating effects of fire whereas the members of the fire service are
joined by the citizens of this community and businesses schools service clubs and
organizations in there are fire prevention efforts I therefore share pro proclaimed
the week of October fourteenth two thousand and six as Fire Prevention Week all
upon the people thoughts and to participate in fire prevention activities more than
work and school and to heed the message to prevent cooking fires this is great
watch what you eat. As
a two thousand and Fire Prevention Week came suggests. OK That will be displayed
here in City Hall and also in the hearts of servers are. On.
Medications recommendation for future agendas any alter person this is before we go
into our clothes if. Has our new computer system installed and it's here it's not.
As one appears way to get there Michael call it or imperious when he's putting in
about fifteen twenty hours a week on it and all the I think
a majority of the parts are here will be setting it up in that room off to
a lot of kind of goes back to the site to get
a report from him what he has done me after
a couple weeks he or one of his. Daughters or anyone else.
So you're turning. To the administrator just
a reminder that anybody that is interested in registering to vote. Encourage you to
do that you know it you really is convenient so if your. Needs and rights were
there for everybody and the other election information and absentee voting.
Take place any time after October seventh the ballot should be here by October
seventh which happens to be
a Saturday so then. Looks Monday the ninth. OK
We're going to go into closed session. So move to going to procession.
He needs to go. To. And I say going to
a private. For the purpose. To confirm everything that happened
I preferred legal counsel re possible litigation from nonrenewable of class B.
Beer licensed offseason golf links mark for stuff or some. Who do want to close it
all second of all Favre I hope the roll call. A manly
gift to Michael. Yes I said yes.